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nicolas今日在开发者频道发言 可见项目方对PI的态度是怎样的

2019-12-31 cun长 来源:区块链网络

大家好,我是鹏飞社区cun长。

今天下午PI项目方nicolas在开发者频道说了很多关于PI的事情,现整理如下,机器翻译有可能个别词汇表达不完全准备,但通过话语仍可以看懂项目方的意思和想法。

@nicolas:Hi everyone,happy holidays. The source code for phase 3 mainnet,the actual blockchain,will boviously be open source and it must be open source.so given that the code for mainnet will be open source,the code for phase 1 is not so important to be open source because its functionality is to custodially keep track of peopli's balances until mainnet and to build the trust graph that the mainnet code will use as an input.Additionally there is a reason for keeping the code of phase 1 closed for the bennefit of all honest pioneers:one of the code's current functionalities is to weed out fake accounts from real ones.So the code is taking into consideration a lot of different user signals and produces a probabitity for each account of whether it is real or fake.It would be detrimental for everyone if that part of the code was open source as it would sinply give visibility to bot owners of how to make better bots,while it wouldn't give any benefit to honest pioneers.At the moment,we are internally silently marking all accounts that our algorithm is certain that are fake,we exclude those accounts from all stats,and their pi will not transfer to mainnet.At the same time we are not giving them any feedback that we"caught" them because we find no reason to help them become "smarter".This part of the code is not related to cryptography(where security by obscruity is not ideal),it is instead a mix of deterministic signal processing and machine learning.

@nicolas:大家好,节日快乐。第三阶段主网的源代码,即实际的区块链,显然是开源的,必须是开源的,所以考虑到主网的代码是开源的,阶段1的代码对于开源来说并不重要,因为它的功能是在mainnet之前保持对用户余额的跟踪,并构建mainnet代码将用作输入的信任图。此外,对于所有诚实的先驱来说,阶段1的代码关闭也是有原因的:代码之一当前的功能是从真实的帐户中剔除假帐户。因此,代码考虑了许多不同的用户信号,并为每个帐户生成一个可能性,以确定它是真的还是假的。如果代码的这一部分是开源的,则对每个人都有害,因为它将使bot所有者能够看到为了制造更好的机器人,虽然它不会给诚实的先锋带来任何好处。目前,我们在内部默默地标记所有帐户,我们的算法确定这些帐户是假的,我们将这些帐户从所有统计中排除,他们的pi不会转移到mainnet,同时我们也不会给他们任何反馈,因为我们没有理由帮助他们变得“更聪明”。这部分代码与密码学无关(在密码学中,通过淫秽的安全性并不理想),而是确定性信号处理和机器学习的混合。

@nicolas:Thanks for offering.Can you get 1 or 2 existing mods to vouch for you?

@nicolas::谢谢你提供。你能得到1或2个现有的MODS来证明你吗?

@nicolas:Not sure about that.We will see

@nicolas:不确定。我们会看看

@nicolas:Many many.Sorry I can't be specific,as I don't have the number right now.We will updat the number when we get back to the office in January

@nicolas:很多。对不起,我不能说具体的,因为我现在没有号码。我们一月份回办公室时会更新号码

@nicolas:I just sent youa private message

@nicolas:我刚给你发了个私人信息

@nicolas:The KYC allows for people to bypass our algorithm and start transferring in-app earlier than mainnet.

@nicolas:KYC允许人们绕过我们的算法,比mainnet更早地开始在app中传输

@nicolas:You explannation is also more or less correct in plain English

@nicolas:你的解释在普通英语中也或多或少是正确的

@nicolas:Not sure what the question is.Two people have the same name?

@nicolas:不知道问题是什么。两个人同名?

@nicolas:What kinds of mistakes do you see?

@nicolas:你看到什么样的错误?

@nicolas:Not sure how fast.But we will figure it out

@nicolas:不知道有多快,但我们会解决的

@nicolas:I agree.Privacy and secrity is our top priority.Hang is there,still beta,we will improve

@nicolas:我同意。隐私和安全是我们的首要任务。等等,还是测试版,我们会改进的

@nicolas:The pi project doesn't need KYC at the moment.what it needs is a way to make sure each real human maintains only one account so that Pi is fairly distributed.KYC is a first quick solution to guarantee that.We will work on better ones.

@nicolas:pi项目目前不需要KYC。它需要的是一种方法,确保每个真正的人只维护一个帐户,这样pi是公平分布的。KYC是保证这一点的第一个快速解决方案。我们将致力于更好的解决方案。

@nicolas:ok.Checking out now.Have a good night everyone

@nicolas:好的。退出聊天室了。大家晚安

@nicolas:Yes,Also see my long message above.Plus maintaining an open source project is more complex due to communication costs with more parties.We will start having open source components of the project at some point and the blockchain will be open source.It's coming

@nicolas:是的,也请看我上面的长篇大论。另外,由于与更多方的沟通成本,维护一个开源项目更为复杂。我们将在某个时候开始使用该项目的开源组件,区块链将是开源的。它即将到来

@nicolas:No real person's pi shall be destoyed.If a person is real and maintains only one account they should not lose their pi.In this case that person for examle can request to KYC to prove they are real.

@nicolas:任何一个真实的人的个人信息都不应被销毁。如果一个人是真实的,并且只保留一个账户,那么他们就不应该丢失他们的个人信息。在这种情况下,例如,此人可以要求KYC证明他们是真实的。

@nicolas:No problem.Also,thanks for the long messages you sent above answering questions to people.Very informative

@nicolas:没问题。另外,谢谢你在上面给人们发来的回答问题的长信息。非常有用

@nicolas:If they are all real people,no problem.Thanks for asking

@nicolas:如果他们都是真人,没问题。谢谢你的邀请

@nicolas:Since there is no fiat money exchange in the Pi app and we don't ask people to pay us anything the main reason for KYC is to prove uniqueness.The core team is not interested in people's data.Our main purpose is the success of the pi network for the benefit of everyone.

@nicolas:由于Pi应用程序中没有法定货币兑换,我们也不要求人们支付任何费用,因此KYC的主要原因是为了证明其独特性。核心团队对人们的数据不感兴趣。我们的主要目的是为了每个人的利益而使Pi网络取得成功。

@nicolas:No.Don't worry.Also,even if we were to classify real people as fake,they can easily prove the truth of being real people.The truth is the truth,and the truth can be defended.

@nicolas:不,别担心。而且,即使我们把真人归为假的,他们也能很容易地证明自己是真人的真相。真相就是真相,真相是可以辩护的。

@nicolas:Our intend is for no real and honest person to loose the pi they mine,and for all bots and their owners to loose all fake pi

@nicolas:我们的目的是不让真正诚实的人释放他们所开采的圆周率,让所有的机器人和它们的主人释放所有的假圆周率

@nicolas:We will have functionality for self-destroy any bad accounts one might have created.If self-reported,no penalty.

@nicolas:我们将有自我毁灭的功能,任何一个可能已经创建的坏帐户。如果自我报告,没有惩罚。

@nicolas:Sorry I didn't understand your question.Thanks for your support

@nicolas:对不起,我不明白你的问题。谢谢你的支持

@nicolas:I love Keybase.I use it everyday.Happy to explore a way to use it for our needs.Do you want to elaborate more?

@nicolas:我喜欢Keybase。我每天都用它。很高兴探索一种方法来满足我们的需要。你想详细说明一下吗?

@nicolas:Very good question.We gave a long answer to this before in this chat.Maybe we should add it to FAQ.Briefly,there is a long time before mainnet,even if they are inactive now they can claim their PI before mainnet.Also by the time we get to mainnet we will hopefully have grown to a massive number,we will do a big marketing push or peer to peer push to ask everyone who participated to come back at least once to claim their pi

@nicolas:很好的问题。我们之前在这个聊天中给出了一个很长的答案。也许我们应该把它添加到常见问题中。简而言之,在mainnet之前还有很长的一段时间,即使他们现在不活动,他们也可以在mainnet之前声明他们的PI。同样,当我们到达mainnet时,我们希望已经增长到一个巨大的数字,我们将做一个大的市场推广或点对点推广要求所有参与的人至少回来一次,要求他们的pi

@nicolas:what do mean by a KYC quota?

@nicolas:KYC配额是什么意思?

从nicolas的聊天中可以看出,项目方一直在寻找一种适合所有矿工的方法去区分真矿工和假矿工,目前还是测试版,

之前很多人担心自己的资料泄露,nicolas 在对话中表示项目方对大家的资料完全没有兴趣,他们有兴趣的是要把PI做成功,做到全球每一个普通人都能用得上PI这个数字货币

离上主网还有一段时间,之前注册过PI但没坚持挖下去的矿工,上主网前会给大家回来的机会,不用担心账户没了。一直保留在那里。

项目方的格局很大,也是真正在做实事,希望PI越来越好。

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